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Y is it so hard for people to do whats right?..... U know I youse ta blame the shit on parentin, television, jus a persons fucked up mentality... but now i'm not so sure...Its sorta sad really...the mindstate that we r currently n is reeks of bullshit.. its acceptable to do all those things that were once considered immoral... Hmmm.. iono but sumtins happenin in this world... and I feel like its days (not mine but the worlds) r numbered...

4 all yall kats who don't know Im overseas..... currently deployed in a waterless desert paradise...that goes by the name of Iraq... I think Gluv n Enigma r here also... but bein here...honestly doesn't bother me... its the things that I hold witness to thats torture... U know I youse ta be ah devout Christian... never cursed, smoked, fucked around, none of that... I was a choir boy... modern-day saint... but as I grew older I jus became infatuated with the dark-side of life n eventually drifted off path... Im jus sitin here wonderin why evil holds such a powerful pull on people...

Lust, adultery, rape, murder, homosexuality, child pornography, blah blah blah.... i could go on forever... U know i was readin an article n i think it was the Source or sumtin... n they were big-uppin...a riot that broke out durin a recent concert.. in it was jus shockin how people r gratified by violence... jus think about the last time u watched a movie...or ya favorite scene n a classic... 9 times outta ten its dealin wit sex or sombody gettin wacked..

What i want to know is how is it that seemingly intelligent people let themselves fall so low...

this is jus my random thoughts.....anybody wanna post some shit on the points i made feel free

uno

Crucifixio
unheardvoice 327
QUOTE (crucifixio @ Jan 18 2005, 09:05 PM)
Y is it so hard for people to do whats right?..... U know I youse ta blame the shit on parentin, television, jus a persons fucked up mentality... but now i'm not so sure...Its sorta sad really...the mindstate that we r currently n is reeks of bullshit.. its acceptable to do all those things that were once considered immoral... Hmmm.. iono but sumtins happenin in this world... and I feel like its days (not mine but the worlds) r numbered...

4 all yall kats who don't know Im overseas..... currently deployed in a waterless desert paradise...that goes by the name of Iraq... I think Gluv n Enigma r here also... but bein here...honestly doesn't bother me... its the things that I hold witness to thats torture... U know I youse ta be ah devout Christian... never cursed, smoked, fucked around, none of that... I was a choir boy... modern-day saint... but as I grew older I jus became infatuated with the dark-side of life n eventually drifted off path... Im jus sitin here wonderin why evil holds such a powerful pull on people...

Lust, adultery, rape, murder, homosexuality, child pornography, blah blah blah.... i could go on forever... U know i was readin an article n i think it was the Source or sumtin... n they were big-uppin...a riot that broke out durin a recent concert.. in it was jus shockin how people r gratified by violence... jus think about the last time u watched a movie...or ya favorite scene n a classic... 9 times outta ten its dealin wit sex or sombody gettin wacked..

What i want to know is how is it that seemingly intelligent people let themselves fall so low...

this is jus my random thoughts.....anybody wanna post some shit on the points i made feel free

uno

Crucifixio

It's called Satan...and peer pressure...
cryza36
It's called Satan...and peer pressure...

co-sign...
unheardvoice 327
Oh yeah crucifixio...I posted somethin in the battle section 4 you...and I'ma start calling you "fix" cause I think you need one...haha lemme stop
crucifixio
hmmmmmmm.................. Doubtful

u see people r afraid ta hear "Real Shit"...jus now as im replyin to this thread it has 15 views... but only what 2 people responded... thats the shit im talkin bout.. people aren't man or woman enuff to look in the mirrior in check themselves... Satan holds sway only if u let him... I roll solo... have no close friends... i mean i got people i kick it wit... but aint nobody invitn me out... cause they know as well as how do jus how i get down... n noone wants their conscience checked
rocyafella
god gave us a thing called a brain...people should use it more often

Whoa!
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It's called Satan...and peer pressure...


nah thats a scapegoat, people just need something to blame and its easy to say the devil and peer pressure. peer pressure is nothing and you cant prove that satan is real unless your dead and you cant talk to the dead.

i just think people feel dumb when they do something and cant man up to what they did.
crucifixio
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True...Roc we were issued brains... n I believe we use em.... u choose ta ignore it.. I got fam thats gay right... straight queer... i luv this nigga ta death... i mean fuck... thats fam... but I caint fuck wit him... I let him know from get go his shit was ill... we fell out... now we dont communicate... n we were inseperable since childhood... but he feels like im judging him... which im not... but i caint condone his lifestyle... its unnatural... How can I respect a man who sleeps wit a man, whose denying Gods intent... or woman who weds another female... then they got laws now that allow marriages as well as these people to raise children... what typo shit is that... n people wonder y the youth is all fucked up
rocyafella
when bein pushed into peer pressure or "satan pressure" ask the simple question..

what would jesus do?

Enigma
I thnk it's cause people give in to what's "cool" and what other people are into. If we never saw someone havin fun being drunk and only saw bums and bad drunken sites...nobody would be drinkin. Well I won't say nobody cause alcoholism is hereditary*spelling*, but yanno what I'm sayin. It's the easy influence that get's people. It's what they see people doin as they grow from toddlers on up. People remember shit that they don't even know they remeber. It all comes back around in subliminal form and people act from some of it. Not sayin that's THE reason, but it is one of them. You right Cruc...nowadays it's ALL SORTS of shit that is TOTALLY acceptable in society, when that shit wouldn't EVER fly 20yrs ago. Shits gettin all fucked up and people look at it and don't care. That's another HUGE thing...people JUST DON'T CARE these days. Just like them commercials wit the trash on the ground. Everybody got they lazy asses standin around TALKIN about it, but it takes forever for ONE person to do somethin and pick it up.
Whoa!
you have to remember about the constitution though just because gay is a sin for christians it may not be for another religion. yeah most the gays say they are christian but once they argue freedom bla blah blah the govt has to give in
rocyafella
QUOTE (Whoa! @ Jan 18 2005, 09:34 PM)
you have to remember about the constitution though just because gay is a sin for christians it may not be for another religion. yeah most the gays say they are christian but once they argue freedom bla blah blah the govt has to give in

nah its a sin in islam and hindu also..i dunno about jews though
ThaHOG
i feel like people all think they gotta be somthin better then the next person...u c evolution has taken us so far its incredible look at all the other animals u dont see them actin like we do i mean they aint gonna clear out the whole world like we might...im a very very strong believer in God and everyday i pray to him i mean shyts fuked up n i know hes watchin and i know he doesnt like all this hatred goin arouns people gotta stop n look at themselves you know i mean look at this shyt wit geroge fuken bush puttin all americans lives in danger everyday on our heels its fuken bullshyt n i hate it...this aint what we supposed to be we built all this shyt the right way we oncoverin all the secrets like God intended but the greed in people thats whats tearin us apart
unheardvoice 327
QUOTE (Whoa! @ Jan 18 2005, 09:21 PM)
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It's called Satan...and peer pressure...


nah thats a scapegoat, people just need something to blame and its easy to say the devil and peer pressure. peer pressure is nothing and you cant prove that satan is real unless your dead and you cant talk to the dead.

i just think people feel dumb when they do something and cant man up to what they did.

No, get mad @ me for using biblical references, but Adam and Eve...But it is people's choices to do something wrong, that's just influence...That's why we have the court system, fucked up as it may be...
crucifixio
far as the gay issue... i studied theology... n not 1 religion openly accepts homosexuality... Judaism...follows the Torah..and the Old Testement... n the Old Testement strictly.. same sex relations... nor is it accepted n the Islamic faith.. or Hinduism..

Every1 talks about "them" those people who do those things... I lookin 4 people to question themselves... I aint gonna front... I watched lesbian porn.. i know the shit aint right... ive smoked weed... robbed people... all kinda grimey shit... despite the fact that i knew it was wrong n still did it... N i looked n the mirror n didnt flich... jus one day I realized that i was fucked up n started ta change...

aint nothin gonna happen over night yo... its unrealistic... but u gotta start wit yaselves nawmean
*TechNickal*
QUOTE (crucifixio @ Jan 18 2005, 09:05 PM)
Y is it so hard for people to do whats right?..... U know I youse ta blame the shit on parentin, television, jus a persons fucked up mentality... but now i'm not so sure...Its sorta sad really...the mindstate that we r currently n is reeks of bullshit.. its acceptable to do all those things that were once considered immoral... Hmmm.. iono but sumtins happenin in this world... and I feel like its days (not mine but the worlds) r numbered...

4 all yall kats who don't know Im overseas..... currently deployed in a waterless desert paradise...that goes by the name of Iraq... I think Gluv n Enigma r here also... but bein here...honestly doesn't bother me... its the things that I hold witness to thats torture... U know I youse ta be ah devout Christian... never cursed, smoked, fucked around, none of that... I was a choir boy... modern-day saint... but as I grew older I jus became infatuated with the dark-side of life n eventually drifted off path... Im jus sitin here wonderin why evil holds such a powerful pull on people...

Lust, adultery, rape, murder, homosexuality, child pornography, blah blah blah.... i could go on forever... U know i was readin an article n i think it was the Source or sumtin... n they were big-uppin...a riot that broke out durin a recent concert.. in it was jus shockin how people r gratified by violence... jus think about the last time u watched a movie...or ya favorite scene n a classic... 9 times outta ten its dealin wit sex or sombody gettin wacked..

What i want to know is how is it that seemingly intelligent people let themselves fall so low...

this is jus my random thoughts.....anybody wanna post some shit on the points i made feel free

uno

Crucifixio

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ThaHOG
great point man....i guess i look at myself and i think i mean i aint done nothin too crazy but u know everyday im now where near perfect im lazy i flip out i cuss at anyone n everyone you know just basic shyt but you know we i see what you sayin by we all gotta make the change i hear you ima keep that in mind

as far as gay goes i mean i dont know much about the religous part of it but as far as i know your born with it so i dont see that bein a person fault unless they take it to a sexual thing or marriage
crucifixio

Hmmm..........n out come the childish crab ass niggas... when the fuck u gonna grow up Tech25...didnt i son ya ass on the old site.... What u mad cause u hold no weight?.... I guess I musta struck home with the gay bashin..my bad.... but please homie stop it ...im not interested
*TechNickal*
sonned who?
did i even have beef wit u?
shit im must have sonned you cuz i dont remeber shit


Hmmm..........n out come the childish crab ass niggas... when the fuck u gonna grow up Tech25...

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*TechNickal*
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matsu
damn yall sure like to get of topic....
crucifixio
aight Tech25 u happy shorty... u posted ya little image n shit... got ya little nut off... u tough square ass Bronx niggas
TXHEAT81
People have become weaker.....it's so easy to do wrong that most know the right thing to do, but doing right takes effort and it takes courage. People wish to mock those who hold strong to their faith, and try to live lives that they see fit for themselves......yet someone who is doing wrong is lauded and accepted without question. Cruc, I can't answer why the darkside is so appealing, but it is and that is why it's so important to hold on strongly to what you believe in. Oh and for all of those who say it's Satan that causes you to do those things, PLEASE.....if you're mind is made up that you are going to live, behave, think, speak, etc a certain way and you PRAY that GOD will help you with that, satan has NO power, so that is a cop out if ever there was one.....this is how I feel. Good topic Cruc.
matsu
yall gettin all religious so... like buddha said we are all responsible for our own happiness and suffering... the cause of this suffering is CRAVING ...no one can escape responsibility for wat they do......u can reach nirvana where there is no suffering or craving by the eightfold path....right understanding, thought, speech, action, livelihood, effort, mindfulness, an concentration.... also nothing is perfect even happiness
matsu
damn wats this topic bout again?...lol umm yea
TXHEAT81
QUOTE (matsu @ Jan 18 2005, 08:22 PM)
yall gettin all religious so... like buddha said we are all responsible for our own happiness and suffering... the cause of this suffering is CRAVING ...no one can escape responsibility for wat they do......u can reach nirvana where there is no suffering or craving by the eightfold path....right understanding, thought, speech, action, livelihood, effort, mindfulness, an concentration.... also nothing is perfect even happiness

@Matsu....learn something everyday....I like that, and even though we phrased it differently, I think we both are thinking along the same lines. Good job lady.
matsu
oops.....whateva.... its hard for people to do right cuz of alotta things ....its also obvious that people have never been sinless
matsu
@txheat thanx smile.gif
jonny j
fa real forget all those religions u talking bout. they written by man to keep order. do u really believe any one religion is right. organized religions is one of the most corrupt institutions over the centuries yet they all hold so much power in a time where we have made so many significant advances only in the past century. so why not accepted 20yrs ago that are accepted today. fuk that shit i can think of many unjust things from 20 yrs ago that have changed. so fuk 20 yrs ago. we are changing. i'm not sure what i believe in, really most people have been programmed since birth to follow a religion, mine was roman catholic but i dam sure don't believe everything i read in the bible. all these were written by man during a time when most things were unexplanable so it was easy to say god did it or told u. that was the explanation for most things. i could go on bout this for hours but i'll leave it at this. LIVE RIGHTEOUSLY. if there is a heaven and hell, righteousness will get u in. i don't pray but i think. if god knows everything i do he knows my thoughts. until i die all i can do is do the best i can to be a good person. in reality everyone sins but not everything is ur fault. its a fuked up world and u are a product of ur environment and ur emotions. again LIVE RIGHTEOUSLY
matsu
everything isnt ur fault unless it was done on porpose. how can u say that shit bout religion if someone CHOSE to believe somethin tho explain that..i mean religion aint bad unless it gets kinda ugly.... but i mean cant relgion be a positive thing tho if it helps somebody get thru life or have somethin for them or whateva no wat im sayin?.....an the thing is not everybody wants to live righteuosly i mean like some peeple really dont give a fuck bout wat the consequences will be .....
jonny j
hey i have no real problem with religion except that most try to use literal interpretations of ancient texts which have little relevance in the world today. its always a good guide on how u should live ur life, but thats pretty much is. they do help with morality and everything but people follow and don't think. that gay marriage shit is one of the funniest things i can think about that show problems in christianity. now i don't know for sure but gay people seem to be born that way. genetic shit proves alot more to me than biblical texts that say God destroy sodom and gomorah. i saw something that showed the locations of sodom at the foot of a volcano and how it could have been and eruption that destroyed it. but thats just a theory, but if true most people would say it was God's work cuz it was contrary to the beliefs of their religion. this is moer than 2000 yrs ago so who really knows but gay people have always been around only no they know genetic science that show different hormone levels, like testostorone and shit like that which make men act more manly. but still how do conservative get off as the ones with values when they don't help the poor. so the concepts of religion that people care about are twisted. how can a capitalist environment be just. everyone is chasing money and material gain. and shows no love for their brother. if u believe that God has impact on ur daily life why are people starving and dying everyday. i still have soem belief that the is a creator, but i question this involvement in our daily life. i'm in a state of confusion in some sense cuz i just see too much unexplainable suffering and religion doesn't answer this.
KARNNATION
PEER PRESSURE YEAH AND SATAN I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE BUT THEY ONLY PART OF IT ONLY YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION TO DO RIGHT OR WRONG IT FALLS ON YOU.
matsu
aiight i kno wat ur sayin...i agree on alotta that cuz it does make sense. i do believe that the whole gay marriage shit is unjust an yea u cant beat hard scientific proof. also thas true that most teachings of religions like to refer to more ancient times which is kinda dumb for people of today to listen to but the morals an concepts or whateva or generally timeless. also wat make me think is how religion has an impact on war which is the ugly side. how some ppl say that the war in iraq is even anotha cristian/muslim war or whateva ....its kinda fucked up how these supreme religious followers are killing when the bible or whateva says not to...talk bout practice wat u preach.....gettin off topic but i heard this shit bout war an religion an how religios ppl who go to church an do somethin w/ the religious community regularly are much more prone to be pro-war then a religious person who does not go to church all the time but pratices or whateva indivdualy..... anyways when u see so much suffering an bad shit around u an u say religion does not answer it i guess its bout how u look at it....one way u see that god or whoever is letting all this pain slide the other way is that u go to god or whoever to get throu the pain an maybe all this sufferin is a way to become a better person....
jen81188
QUOTE (crucifixio @ Jan 18 2005, 09:05 PM)
Y is it so hard for people to do whats right?..... U know I youse ta blame the shit on parentin, television, jus a persons fucked up mentality... but now i'm not so sure...Its sorta sad really...the mindstate that we r currently n is reeks of bullshit.. its acceptable to do all those things that were once considered immoral... Hmmm.. iono but sumtins happenin in this world... and I feel like its days (not mine but the worlds) r numbered...

4 all yall kats who don't know Im overseas..... currently deployed in a waterless desert paradise...that goes by the name of Iraq... I think Gluv n Enigma r here also... but bein here...honestly doesn't bother me... its the things that I hold witness to thats torture... U know I youse ta be ah devout Christian... never cursed, smoked, fucked around, none of that... I was a choir boy... modern-day saint... but as I grew older I jus became infatuated with the dark-side of life n eventually drifted off path... Im jus sitin here wonderin why evil holds such a powerful pull on people...

Lust, adultery, rape, murder, homosexuality, child pornography, blah blah blah.... i could go on forever... U know i was readin an article n i think it was the Source or sumtin... n they were big-uppin...a riot that broke out durin a recent concert.. in it was jus shockin how people r gratified by violence... jus think about the last time u watched a movie...or ya favorite scene n a classic... 9 times outta ten its dealin wit sex or sombody gettin wacked..

What i want to know is how is it that seemingly intelligent people let themselves fall so low...

this is jus my random thoughts.....anybody wanna post some shit on the points i made feel free

uno

Crucifixio

i never knew christians throws bombs on people- or do they???
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